Nice. My partner has a Proxmox setup, so we’ve adapted the Nix config to spin up new VMs of any machine with a single command.

NixOS :)

Maybe I should have clarified that liking bare-metal does not imply disliking abstraction

They are using a hosting provider - their dad.

“The cloud” is also just a bunch of machines in a basement. Lots of machines in lots of “basements”, but still.

OK, but I’d rather be the expert.

And I have no troubling spinning up new services, fast. Currently sitting at around ~30 Internet-facing services, 0 docker containers, and reproducing those installs from scratch + restoring backups would be a single command plus waiting 5 minutes.

No, I actually think that is a good analogy. If you just want to have something up and running and use it, that’s obviously totally fine and valid, and a good use-case of Docker.

What I take issue with is the attitude which the person I replied to exhibits, the “why would anyone not use docker”.

I find that to be a very weird reaction to people doing bare metal. But also I am biased. ~30 Internet facing services, 0 docker in use 😄

I would say yes, it’s still self-hosting. It’s probably not “home labbing”, but it’s still you responsible for all the services you host yourself, it’s just the hardware which is managed by someone else.

Also don’t let people discourage you from doing bare-metal.

Yeah why wouldn’t you want to know how things work!

I obviously don’t know you, but to me it seems that a majority of Docker users know how to spin up a container, but have zero knowledge of how to fix issues within their containers, or to create their own for their custom needs.