The left part of the screen of my parent’s Samsung TV have seriously blackened recently, so they are thinking of buying a new TV. We probably bought this like 6 years ago maybe, but I absolutely do NOT want to buy a Samsung again (6 years is just planned obsolescence reliability + their OS didn’t let me remove the bloatware in any way or shape of form)
Which brand has been the most reliable for you, and also have you been able to remove the bloatware from your TV via dev mode or with a different method?
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The screens Sony uses are Samsung or LG but just against a premium price.
Unfortunately, I think we’re trapped in planned obsolescence. I’ve been taking the approach of looking at cost as a primary driver.
The difference between a crappy 4K tv and a quality 4K tv is hard for me to distinguish in most cases. Especially, if they’re not side by side.
Let’s say I set my max price at $550.
You can find a cheap brand Onn or TCL in a 70” range size. If you go smaller you’ll likely find “better” brands.
I don’t think there’s much that makes one brand better than others. 5-7 years is probably max life of anything you’ll buy today. Unless you’re willing to open it up and start trying to find the bad capacitors and re solder to the board.
Rule #1. The tv never connects to internet Rule #2. Rule #1 never gets broken Rule #3. Use another device to play signal (fire stick, Apple TV, cable box, Xbox, PlayStation, pc, etc) Rule #4. Use a sound system not the tv speakers. Go big with surround systems or don’t. Anything is better than tv speakers. I’ve used a 2.1 setup for decades. A soundbar with sub is simple to setup and use.
I’ve heard Roku is one to potential avoid now as I’ve heard they may require Internet connection on setup of some new tvs.
A good tv has an acceptable picture, size, and plays a video source.
It’s important to consider whether a tv is even desirable anymore. Everyone has their own personal devices to stream, gaming systems have monitors, etc: I rarely use the big screen anymore. If I needed to replace it, I’d give serious consideration to NOT
No idea, but my 15 year old Sony seems to be hanging on just fine.
Maybe the old ones but the current ones have absolute dog shit software. Random crashes, audio dropping out, notifications that the network connection isn’t working even if you deliberately turned it off, the audio level is in the bottom center of the screen, covering up subtitles and a bunch more annoyances. I don’t know who shipped this and thought it was good enough.
Hmm what is your Sony TV model? Most people seems to recommend Sony’s, but I wouldn’t be surprised that the recent models are shittier than they used to be
It’s a Sony BRAVIA XR-55A95L. I‘ve read multiple reports that there issues with Sony‘s current software on their TVs and people even went as far as to recommend other TVs with the same panel instead.
When it comes to electronics, reliability is determined by the quality of the electrolytic capacitors used as they are typically the first to fail in an electronic circuit. There are other considerations of course, but in general the better the capacitor used in construction the longer the item will last.
Electronics that have cheap capacitors will have about a 10 year life. Those that use higher end capacitors will last 30 years or more. I have two McIntosh amplifiers that were built in 1992 and are still working great on the original caps. They have McIntosh branded capacitors and are top tier, although I don’t now who specifically makes them for McIntosh. I also have 2 Carver amps from about the same era and I’ve had to recap them already. Carver has great sound, but lousy build quality. Also have a Marantz receiver that was built in 2000 with Marantz branded caps that came to me with a dead amplifier, which just turned out to be a dry solder joint on a PC board. Two hours of resoldering several PCBs in it and it’s working very well.
HERE is a good list of top tier capacitor manufacturers, just scroll down a bit to find it of top tier capacitor manufacturers. You’ll have to do some research to find out what TV manufacturer is using what capacitor in their designs.
With that said, there is one listed there that also makes televisions and they, fortunately, have come back to the US market. That is Panasonic. I have a Panasonic Plasma that I bought in 2010 and it is still going strong. It is still my family’s main television. It got hit by lightning in 2012 and I had to replace the power supply and main board in it, which was not the TV’s fault. It has all Panasonic capacitors in it.
I also have a Panasonic Microwave, and cordless phone. Both of which have far far outlived their predecessors. The cordless phone will be 20 years old next April and the microwave is coming up on 13 years.
I will not say that Panasonic has the best picture, best sound, or uses unicorn farts to make the best what ever… Honestly, I don’t give a damn about any of that. What I will say that in my experience if you want an electronic device that lasts a long time, buy a Panasonic.
I don’t use “smart” features my current TV is a MicroLED with local dimming zones hooked up to a full fat PC running Linux with GNOME because the GUI works well in a living room environment with a wireless trackpad keyboard. The Logitech one is best, there’s not many options there unfortunately but it’s a good one except the lack of backlit keys.
So ignoring the crap onboard APU and shitty TV OS, well I’ve never had a TV break before I’ve replaced it frankly…except my previous TV. OLED aren’t worth it unless you don’t care about them being expensive disposable items that absolutely will degrade over time.
Current TV is an 75" LG and it’s fine. I wanted VRR and 120Hz for gaming. Are the dimming zones apparent when scrolling websites in dark mode? Yep but I don’t care.
Obviously if you don’t care about games then get a cheaper mini-PC instead.
Well my parents do not game at all, so they don’t need VRR and such, but do you think a 90 / 120 hz TV can be beneficial just for watching movies and normal TV shows?
No, in this case I’d say 60hz is totally fine (maaaaybe if someone is an avid sports fan, black frame insertion for blur busting on a high refresh rate screen I suppose, but it’s just a nice to have feature, nothing critical) and I’d be more concerned with nit numbers / HDR certs if they’d like that sort of thing at extra expense. I don’t think anything less than 1000 really counts personally if you want HDR. Lower is all marketing wank IMO. Did have a nice wow factor with my parents when they upgraded from a plain 1080p LCD recently. My mother doesn’t really care she’d be fine with a 300 dollar TCL lol.
My Samsung dumb TV is still going strong after about 10 years but the slightly newer “smart” TV is already looking dodgy and I hate the software on it.
LG seems to be ok with internet disconnected, my cousin recently got one. I have a samsung and yeah the software is atrocious, tho mine’s from 2016 or so and still working pretty well.
As a few others have said -> LG Oled. I have a CX 65’ for 5 years now, best TV I ever had. Bought a C4 42’ for PC monitor, best monitor I ever had.
LG has been great but protip - don’t use the built in “smart” features as they seem to get outdated faster than the panel. Get an external device such as an Nvidia Shield, Google TV, Apple TV.
Panasonic dumb plasma is going on 14 years. We’re hopeful we can get about 6-10 out of it.
Oh yeah we have a Panasonic plasma TV as well, and it still works. That’s a beast for sure
Have you considered trying to repair it? Darkened screen sounds like failed LED lighting strips and those can be replaced. Watch a few videos on the subject to get an idea of what you are getting into. I did it on a vizio TV and it took me about an hour all told.
Honestly thanks for giving me this idea! It definitely should be a failed LED strip issue, which can be a fun way to fix something. There is already a great looking guide exactly about Samsung TVs right here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZwM2nU8v2Y
https://www.lapseoftheshutter.com/samsung-tv-dark-shadow-fix/
I bought an LG in 2014 and it lasted ~10 years before the backlight died. I bought a new LG that has a bunch of smart features but I’ve never connected it to the Internet, and it’s largely stayed out of my way and not been annoying.
So I guess LG has been good for me.
And what’s your experience with the newer LG TV? Can you delete it’s bloatware apps?
I don’t think it has any apps by default, or if it did I removed them. I just plugged in an Android TV and that seems to be working just fine.
But the TV itself isn’t connected to the Internet and it doesn’t bug me to connect and the default is just a nice background image without pestering me.
Somehow I’ve had the same Vizio for over 10 years now. Still works great.
I just replaced my ten year old Vizio …… with a Vizio. The old one still works great but I wanted the new features. I upgraded to OLED, higher resolution, higher refresh rate, better automation: 10 years worth of incremental improvements. Even the apps were still reasonably responsive.
I used to care about reliability. I used to care about specs, but a dominating criteria now is how annoying the ads and and surveillance are. I don’t use the apps, but There’s not really any way to get away from it.
I have an old Firestick that i stream from, so it’ll be a much better experience when I find something less shitty to replace that
I basically never hear anything about Vizio. Is this an USA only thing?
Maybe? Not sure. I’m in the USA and we have em.
Panasonic. Bought current Panasonic TV a few years ago based on the strength of our previous one. Brilliant picture quality on both. Never connected to the interpipes
Unfortunately, Panasonic stopped selling TVs in the US.
And what is your experience with default bloatware apps? Can you remove them?
Philips. I’ve had my last one for 15 years before it died and the picture still had better colors than my sister’s new ultra thin LG. Can’t say much about their newer models as I haven’t bought a new one yet, but I also use Philips monitors on my PC and I’m very happy with them.
I also got a really old Philips TV that is still going!
Just be aware that since 2011 the Philips brand for TVs and monitors was sold to TPV Technology.
Doesn’t mean they’re bad now, but maybe not worth it paying a premium for that brand name.That’s true of course. But they must be doing something right, because even their lower-priced models are pretty good. Last year I bought a 144Hz desktop monitor for a little more than 100€ and it’s been great so far.
Ohh thanks for that context! I didn’t know it’s TV branch was soild off to TPV