Might help also to describe what you think feminism is, since it’s one of those terms that is overloaded.

I once had a physical therapist tell me she wasn’t a feminist because she thought women couldn’t be as physically capable as men when serving as soldiers, and seemed to believe feminism requires treating women exactly like men.

I told her I was a feminist because I believe in equal rights for men and women, an idea she did not seem so opposed to.

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    Sentience plus communication is literally the recipe for consent. So, yes, it does have a lot to do with it.

    Cows are sentient and can suffer. They are nothing like doors. It upsets me that you even compare them to inanimate objects. It’s disgusting that you think we can use them, and compare the SA that happens to them like putting a key in a door.

    They don’t want some random human forcibly shoving their fist inside of them. They’re as smart as human toddlers, and have just as much capacity to suffer.

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      They are nothing like doors

      they are exactly like doors in the ways that matter for this conversation. it’s absurd to discuss consent from them.

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                So its okay to SA humans that cant be informed any more than a door can?

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                  no. it’s reasonable to discuss consent from humans, since humans can be informed. if the circumstances preclude them from being informed, that doesn’t change whether consent should still be required.

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                    You just said a bunch of words without answering what makes it wrong to SA a human that can’t be informed vs a cow that cant be informed.

                    The answer is there is none, other than speciesist bs. The answer is they suffer. They suffer just as much as some humans. They have just as much ability to consent as some humans(which is none) yet you consider them the same as you would consider a fucking door.

                    They are not a door. Again they can suffer and doors CANNOT suffer. They are sentient and have desires like not getting SA or not dying or on and on, where as a door is not sentient and does not have desires.

                    The whole idea behind consent is to not go against someone’s desires (If they do not consent) and to go with someone’s desires (if they do consent). Just because cows can’t communicate consent doesn’t mean they don’t have those desires that are at the root of why were even have consent in the first place.

                    Here are some facts about cows and how smart they are. Please read up on them before comparing them to a door again. https://vegfaqs.com/how-intelligent-is-a-cow/