such as like this:

The concept of gender identity is said to be real as an experience, (like how theists claim to see god [a claim basically]), but scientifically under-defined, weakly grounded biologically, and sometimes treated as more fixed or explanatory than current evidence justifies.

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    That’s very enlightening and thought-provoking material. The detransition figures about people being abandoned is disturbing. Thank you for this.

    As for the mental health issues- some could argue that the Gender Dysphoria causes these issues, and that these issues are side effects of Gender Dysphoria. So I’m not too sure if existing mental health issues invalidates gender dysphoria.

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      It’s not about invalidation. It’s about the case of lost and mentally unwell people finding out about transgender, then find a welcoming community, that accepts them. They get presented a simple explanation on why they don’t feel like themselves and a path through that. If other people (like the parents) shed doubt on this, they can be called transphobic and face social consequences. So if someone grabs onto this, they get treatment in the form of hormone pills pretty much immediately under informed consent.

      Differential diagnosis for mental health issues is never easy. One mental health issue can easily cause others. The major difference is that gender and being trans can become a big part of one’s identity. You don’t get that to that extent with other disorders.

      Especially the overlap with autism is interesting and not obviouS. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/european-psychiatry/article/crossing-boundaries-unraveling-the-link-between-gender-dysphoria-and-autism/DB33E9208EF32A46C4AE83D9B673F498

      Preliminary findings indicate that individuals with ASD may experience higher rates of gender dysphoria compared to the general population. Factors such as social communication difficulties, rigid thinking patterns, and heightened sensitivity to social norms appear to influence the experience of gender identity. Qualitative data reveal that many individuals navigate significant challenges in accessing appropriate support and validation, often feeling marginalized within both the autistic and gender-diverse communities.

      I invite you to seek out interviews with detransitioners and people who used to work in gender affirming care, if you want to learn about Trans issues from someone besides activists.

      That said trans people are real and some benefit from transitioning. The very charged political climate around this health care issue, creates problems for trans and non trans folk alike.

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        I am autistic and used to be led into believing I was non binary by a friend group. Thankfully I am out of that group. Ironically, they were the most intolerant people I knew (I wouldn’t have cared if they civilly disagreed with me on some issues, but they wouldn’t.) Meanwhile the evangelical church my family had belonged to, that I went to when I was younger, welcomed me back in with open arms despite civilly disagreeing with my identity and view on gender at the time.