I find this very concerning that people protesting a genocide and display flags of terrorist organisations is somehow a worse crime that the actual genocide itself.
It doesn’t make sense when we have musicians being held to a higher standard than countries and our own fucking government. Makes me want to fly a Hezbollah flag myself. I would argue flying the Union Jack is supporting terror around the world. The same as that Yankee flag.
Edit: Ive just got out of surgery with a GA so will reply to these once I feel human again.
Do you not believe that sometime when fighting terrorism (coming from the IDF and settlers) that it stands to reason that you have to so terrible things yourself, lest you just get wiped out.
How would we feel about the Iraqi government locking people up for flying the American or UK flag during our illegal invasion. We could have been labelled as terrorists for those actions.
I’m not saying I’m right here, but I’m incredibly frustrated and on the verge of doing something serious as I don’t know what else to do. I educate my ignorant friends, I protest, I write to my local officials etc.
To a degree, I do. I can understand why it happens, and see opposition as just to some degree. And there is part of the blame on civilian settlers invading too, with ignorance or deliberately. But there is nuance in actions (damaging property vs people, etc), and planning for and handling consequences. The terror evidently caused much more terror and damage to their own side. It did not improve the situation at all.
If you’re looking at the situation now, is it more important to support armed defense and opposition, or opposing Isreal in its activities? It’s very clear to me.
Supporting Hezbollah doesn’t give us anything in this situation. It is damaging in rallying support and in supporting Palestinians and their misery.
I think there is an important lesson to be learned here. The countries we live in came to be through (sometimes armed and violent) protest. They dont change through disagreement but through long lasting and resilient protest.
Another important part: a lot of the people we know today as those who formed our human rights and countries, would ne branded terrorists today. The countries we live in use terror to overwhelm opposition but they call it legitimate. We have police in tanks using chemicals against protesters, killing some.
Its total bullshit and sign of undercomplex understanding of the world to blanket distegard groups because they form armed resistance against oppression. Armed resistance is also covered by international human rights, while the actions of the current aggressor are not.
Did anyone blanket disregard groups in this thread? I don’t see it.
We can understand why a group picks up arms, and can even see it as just to a degree, while disagreeing with some of their actions.
Some activities being covered by international human rights doesn’t mean all of them are. Raising their flag means supporting all of their actions.
I wrote this to highlight how the term “terror*” is used to smear armed resistance.
Raising a flag in general does not mean you support any and all deeds an organization has done. Another undercomplex take.
For example germany, usa, etc have done unspeakable things, yet we can raise their flag. These double standards are insane. There is no group that - by this standard - would be worthy of flying their flag. Even in the lgbtq and neurodivergence movements there are people who are bad actors. Its is a complete L take.
I’m not saying hamas or whatever group is beyond criticism or even worth considering supporting but I’m saying a very small portion of people speaking about this cab write two paragraphs about these organizations, why and how they were formed and what things they did and what they should be criticized or ousted for.
I’m pretty sure it’s the interpretation most people will conclude to when they see someone wave that flag at a demonstration, though. There’s a Palestine flag too. Raising that gives a very different image.
The German “Third Reich” had it’s own flag, which is forbidden in Germany. I can see your point, though.
Those are country flags, though, not a country’s militia flag. Germany has other Nazi symbols outlawed too.
The reich is not germany. Germany after the third reich has also done unspeakable things. Currently, germany is assisting in genocide which hopefully will lead to german politicians being charged and sentenced for crimes against humanity.
My point was your argument is bogus and flying a flag does not mean aligning with every deed. It shows that you dont understand how public image works.
Painting an organization (or a person) as bad is very easy, same with painting them as good (whitewashing). Flying any flag means sparking discourse and in some cases it means reopening the public case to change the public image.