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Israel has quite literally been under attack by multiple other countries since it was created.

And quite literally started stealing land and attacking locals from the very first minutes of the creation of israel. Israel is always playing the victim but they are only a victim of some minor consequences of their own bullying and criminality. Isrsel should never have been created and the UN should fix this problem they created by kicking Israel back to the US, Russia and Europe where they belong.

They lack the respect for justice to proceed as any sort of legitimate state. They are an armed camp of bandits. Israel is not about a jewish homeland. its about theft and always has been. Jewish people already had a homeland in the jewish autonomous oblast. They had it for ten years before they started thieving and murdering in the middle east.

Iran funded militias to fight Israel because of what israel did to Palestine. Iranian revolution was 1978. Nakba was 1948.

Well. Seems I replied to the wrong person. Sorry bud, and appreciate you not calling me out for it.

We have tried a two state solution for more than half a century

No. small bits of it were tried for very short amounts of time-- but there was never a state for Palestine that was free of Israeli dominance and was self determining. Israel itself fought the secular Fatah government that the Palestinians briefly set up for themselves and created and funded Hamas (at great cost) to overthrow Fatah and create exactly the situation we are in now. Fatah was explicitely secular by the way. Israel insisted that Hamas be created to be religious.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/european-union/article/2024/01/20/eu-s-top-diplomat-josep-borrell-accuses-israel-of-creating-and-financing-hamas_6449311_156.html

Theres just no way to make any sort of peace with hardcore supremecists. And Israelis are supremacists. At their very core they dont want peace, they want the dominance they see is their due, which is stated in a even moderately conservative reading of their religious books-- that non-jewish souls are fundamentally different and lesser than jewish ones-- regular humans souls can never be equal to jews-- we are closer to animals, and many of us are simply incapable of being “good”. (do we need quotes for that? Say the word) So of course they feel no need to be honest in their dealings with lesser beings. And their books also outline that they should have a seperate set of moralities for dealing with jews and nonjews. Its trivially easy to read their books as an entire religious philosophy based on ‘rules for thee and not for me’.

If you were a black skinned family and had a KKK chapter house move literally in your back yard and claim the land for their own, what would you do? Appeal to their sense of common humanity? Share the land that was yours? Try to appeal to the more moderate KKK voices? Not “slander” the good name of the KKK since only 90% of them are openly advocating for violence, rather than 100%? Cant judge an entire people on what just 90% of them say, eh? How unfair that would be! They might just be good people who happen to live in a KKK house!

This is their claim on the land of that region, and the reason they feel they can kill every lesser being on it. “To your descendants have I given this Land from the river of Egypt to the Euphrates River.” (Genesis 15:18)

They will cheerfully destroy the world seeking to assert their “right” from the book they wrote.

By that logic there would never be a border between a weak and strong country. So reality itself disproves your idea.

And Israel would richly deserve it. Israel has attacked Iran how many times? How many murders on Iranian soil? For Iran its a matter of self defense.

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and the israelis in.

giving people their stuff back thats been stolen from them is now genocide?

So if I go make an illegal “settlement” in your back yard and you want to get me out, and I say “nope, I’m not moving, you’ll have to kill me” then telling me to leave means you are committing genocide against me?

Thats a complete disavowal of all property law and basic human rights, isnt it? Why do you get to do this?

automated turrets run by the UN general assembly (not the security council) to enforce the boundaries Israel agreed to before the nakba. If Israel wants to use bribery, fne, but they should be made to buy off half the world, not just the US.

yes, it is easy to call supporters of war crimes and mass murder Hasbara, its true.

Well, in the end its not going to be up to you how this ends. So think whatever hasbara nonsense you want.

you sound an “aweful” lot like a terrorist.

if you frame it that way, no, but if you take into account the open terrorism of irguin, the murders and ethnic cleansing of the nakba, 80 years of apartheid and casual killing, and the genocide since 2023, its all crimes for 80 years. So try again with the framing of the problem.

No actually it had always been considered a pretty dangerous far right idea, right up until the state of Israel was founded and then anti zionists became the fringe.

depends entirely on how you see the concept of zionism. If you limit it to jews thinking they need a homeland, fine. It you think it means they need a homeland and it needs to be where a bunch of people already live now, then thats clearly a huge problem. Ben Gurion said it had to be on the site of the old kingdom, and the people there needed to be driven out. Thats ethnic cleansing and it has led to genocide and untold oppression and crimes against humanity. Its currently worse than the nazis because the rank and file israelis know exactly the severity of crimes going on in their name, which was not the case for nazi germany.

Spoken like someone who mixes their fabrics and eats shellfish.

I’d start with logo.