I’m so happy you understand what I mean! All my friends K-holed HARD but nobody understood what I was talking about after the fact. I did have a very low body weight at the time, so that might have affected that… but it was definitely… an… experience.

That’s EXACTLY the experience that I had as well. I wanted to call it ego death but that’s not the right term, and I’ve experienced ego death before on strong hallucinogens like DMT, 5-MeO-DiPT, DOX, 4-AcO-AMT, etc. Actually, I don’t think I hit ego death on 4Aces, but it was a crazy experience.

The One Time On Ket ™ was different. There was no ego to die, and death wasn’t a concept. Concepts weren’t a thing. It also lasted a LONG time. I’m used to K lasting like a half hour for a small line, or 45 minutes for a hole. I was still very off two hours later. But the terror (if terror could have existed) was probably about 20-30 minutes at the peak, then I came back into a normal hole for a while.

I’m glad I experienced it once because I think it’s neat to experience the extremes of what the human brain is capable of… but NEVER AGAIN NOPE NO WAY. I’ll do some k, but I’m sticking with much less than hole doses.

Title of the thread hahaha. It’s impossible to explain. I can still feel the terror I felt that night, though. Or what would have been terror, if terror existed as a concept. And it was forever, I knew it would never end. I was never supposed to go there.

Absolutely. At the end of a hotel party, a friend put down lines of “trail mix” (ketamine+coke+MDMA). But it was actually just ketamine. I’ve done my fair share, I’ve been in holes, I know how it is. But this was a LOT. Like, I wasn’t sure how it all fit in my nose. It FAR surpassed one mg/KG of body weight and I was winding down off other stuff, about to head to my room for the night. So the six of us in their room all did our line, and laid in beds and chairs. Then suddenly I felt myself falling. QUICKLY. Not like any other hole I’ve been in. Like a speed elevator down, while I’m laying next to my partner in a bed, comfy. But then things got WEIRD. I lost all perception of time and feelings. I would have been terrified, but I didn’t know what terror was. Then I saw it all. It was like the veil of reality was pulled back and I witnessed things that our minds weren’t supposed to see. But I saw them. And I was there forever. Except forever wasn’t a thing, because there was no time.

I haven’t done K since, and that was like seven years ago. It was neat, and also insanely horrifying.

I did t know you play as Malcolm in the third game! I’ll have to play the second and third once I’m done with a replay of the first one!

Quest for Glory and Kyrandia!