listen man. you think i’m trolling you, i think you’re trolling me, we can just not talk.

I really don’t think my mistake, which I admit, and I’m sorry for, warrant this response. I’m not interested in continuing conversation with you

computer programming 17 years hobby 5 years professional

you are really in a mood today

Take a wild guess

unintentionally misread your comment because this thread has diverged into so many different branches I’m having difficulty tracking it. damn man

While I believe everything I’ve said I also believe that 90% of graphical applications are dogshit and 99% of closed source software is dogshit and I don’t think these things can change due to conflict of interest. I very strictly use only open source software in my workflow and because of this, when I have a problem with the tools I just fix them myself.

I really dislike this sentiment in this context. This sentiment is about applications made for people who barely use computers. It’s for like… iPhone apps to order food. This sentiment is just incorrect when it comes to technical tools made for professionals.

Apply this to like any other profession and it makes it obvious how nonsense it is.

If you need a manual to disassemble this engine, it’s a terrible engine.

If you need a manual to pilot this helicopter, it’s a terrible helicopter.

If you need a manual to operate this electron microscope, it’s a terrible electron microscope.

idk I’m not trying to say I’m built different or anything but I’ve done the manual reading exercise so many times that I usually just need to read it once and it sticks in my head long enough that it doesn’t hinder my productivity. This workflow is cozy to me

If it’s a terminal application, the UI is essentially the same for every program. and it’s a UI i’m comfortable with and enjoy using. GUI apps though, I honestly hate 90% of the time. Almost every graphical application is utter dogshit. So we agree… kinda?

UX only people who are willing to read the manual understand*

i learned pretty much everything about the vast majority of tools i use on a daily basis literally just by reading the manual. i know that attention span, and well, literacy are both high bars but if I can do it you can too.

not everyone wants to give up control of their life’s work in exchange for funding. funding comes with stipulations.

blender is obviously an exception, they have the resources to do it. the vast majority of projects this post is about do not.

if people want to feel special for using difficult software, that’s dumb, but that’s not why the software is difficult.

“the exception proves the rule” and so on

I don’t think this is right. It’s more like:

This software is so obscenely powerful that UX is irrelevant. If you want that power, you are going to learn how to use it. We’re too busy making the software powerful to waste time making it accessible to people who can’t be bothered expending the effort.

This is especially relevant in open-source. It’s free software bro. Pick two ONLY: Free, Easy, Powerful