Well, I’m glad we had this conversation and wish you all the best for the future. Thank you for your time.

It isn’t just the negatives of what they are doing. But also the positives of what I am doing.

That still sounds like you’re making it more about you than about them. And if that’s the case, you’ll likely continue to get subpar results.

Also, this isn’t a debate, I’m just presenting you with the same information help me change my mind. And I’m not going to argue about it, you can take it or leave it.

See? Now you know how it feels to be on the other side of what you say you are doing.

The intent is to present snippets of information over a period of time and allow them to connect the dots.

Yes, I understand that, but what I’m telling you that it’s a mistake to assume that everyone will process the information you find convincing in the same way that you did, and on top of that, it can come off as an imposition because you’re basically asking them to do all of the work you already did on yourself, without offering them much of a benefit in return other than your own satisfaction in being right. And I know this kinda sucks, but sometimes that isn’t enough.

Let’s take your veganism as an example: if you only present them with reasons for why eating meat is bad, all you’ll likely achieve is them feeling bad about their meat habit, but it’s likely not enough for them to consider ditching it. In some countries, they make cigarette manufacturers print gruesome pictures of cancerous lungs and stillborn babies over half the front of the package, yet some people still continue to smoke. Sure, I bet that at least some people are scared out of ever trying it, but those who’ve already acquired a comfortable habit aren’t likely to stop, they’ll simply avoid looking at the pictures.

If you want to convince someone to at least make an effort, you’ll have to give them a little more than that, something they can’t get if they continue in their old ways. Like, maybe cook them a killer vegan dish that has them drooling for a week, and offer to teach them how to make it if they’re interested. I dated a vegan/vegetarian girl before who knew her way around the kitchen, so I know these recipes exist.

Also, be prepared to compromise and meet them in the middle if necessary (i.e. reducing their meat intake to maybe a few days a week). Despite my outmost love and respect for my ex’s mad kitchen skills, I never really managed to ditch the meat habit entirely. No matter how much effort she put in, every now and then, l still found myself with a hole in my stomach only a juicy steak could fill. However, I DID end up eating far less meat than before, and when I did, I could afford to buy much higher quality (grass-fed, organic, free range, etc.), which I think is still a win overall, because it promotes animal welfare by taking the money that would have otherwise gone to gruesome factory farms to responsible, ethical, family farmers that treat their animals with love and respect.

In summary, don’t just present people with the negative aspects of their behavior, offer them some real, tangible benefits in return. You catch a lot more flies with honey than with vinegar.

This has a very “facts don’t care about your feelings” kinda vibe to it, which I honestly understand, but seems to ignore the fact that feelings don’t care about your facts. When people hold irrational opinions, that’s by definition not based on objective reality, but likely some sort of personal experience.

Perhaps try asking them where their views come from? Ideally in a non-confrontational way, because they might already be aware of their internal conflicts but too ashamed to admit them. Some people are afraid of water because their parents just threw them in a pool and expected them to figure out how to swim by themselves or something like that. It’s not rational from the perspective of someone who learned how to swim in a healthy and normal way, yet it’s also kinda rational from the perspective of someone who was traumatized in the process.

Of course, that’s not an easy solution because you might have to be willing to do some work in order to help them overcome their trauma (should they be willing to do so), but it probably has a better chance of changing their minds than presenting them with a list of facts has (which is kinda passive-aggressive if you think about it). Of course, they might also say no to your offer, in which case you still have the option to decide where to go from there.