There’s probably a better community for asking this, but I haven’t been able to find that one either.
What I’m looking for is a place to discuss ideas that encourages good-faith conversation, staying on topic, and being decent to one another - while actively discouraging mean-spirited, facetious, or bad-faith responses that focus on criticizing the person asking the question rather than engaging with the substance of it. And by “discouraging,” I mean active moderation with very low tolerance for that kind of commentary.
I don’t understand your reasoning here. You seem to be implying that if we allow people to have open, honest debates, they’d somehow end up on the logical conclusion that sexual violence is good or justified. I’m sorry, but I just can’t see how that would happen. I’ve never in my life heard an intellectually honest, rational thinker make that kind of argument - though I have heard them argue the exact opposite.
I also don’t know why you seem to assume that ideas like these wouldn’t face any pushback. I’m not suggesting we create a space free of criticism - I’m suggesting we discuss ideas like civilized people, rather than shouting over one another and calling names just because we don’t like the tone of the sounds someone is making.
The only ones who need to fear open debate and discussion are authoritarian governments, because they don’t want people discovering the truth. And I seriously doubt that the moral rightness of sexual violence is some hidden truth the government is secretly trying to suppress.
Would you mind walking me through the steps of how a space like this becomes a breeding ground for fascists and sexual abuse? I genuinely don’t understand how you imagine that would happen - or why there wouldn’t be anyone pushing back. For that to be true, it would almost imply that fascists and rapists are the only ones capable of having good-faith discussions with each other, while everyone else with a functioning moral compass would’ve already been banned for incivility.
My suggestion is not to engage in conversation when they are “in the weeds” and talking to the music in their head. What they are describing really has nothing to do with the concern you’re bringing up
This is exactly why we need a moderated community that keeps these kinds of people out - those simply incapable of having a productive or on-topic dialogue. Most of these people can’t go half of a sentence before talking to the music box in their subconscious. I’m not seeing any kind of good faith dialogue where one logical concept flows into the next.
This person has constructed a straw man where your underlying point apparently is invalid because you haven’t come up with a specific topic suggestion.
And then they’ve gone off to invoke specters and boogeymen about pedophilia and stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with this!!!
Like these people are just assholes. There, I said it.