• Nate Cox@programming.dev
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    3 days ago

    So this is Jenkins except it guzzles water and ruins the lives of people near data centers?

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              3 days ago

              AI is not the whole cloud, it’s a fraction of the cloud.
              The MIT Press article is from 2022, citing 2019 data. Datacenter tech and heat reuse extremely intensified the last years, so this data is clearly out of date.

              Go explain to these people why “bigger DCs are actually better”:

              Tell me where there is any proof this is meta fault ? Because they are near the datacenter ? Do you have any idea of the amount of water a datacenter consume ?

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                AI is not the whole cloud, it’s a fraction of the cloud

                And yet it uses so much more energy per capita. This is not like a secret, dude.

                Do you have any idea of the amount of water a datacenter consume ?

                No. Nobody has exact figures because there is a mountain of intentional obfuscation hiding it. We know that it is a tremendous amount of water because we can estimate and we can see the data of towns literally going into extreme droughts right next to data centers, but is is suspiciously difficult to get actual numbers. This should tell you a lot.

                https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/analysis/data-center-water-usage-remains-hidden/

                Tell me where there is any proof this is meta fault

                Did… did you not actually watch the video? The video very clearly answers this. Like, multiple times.

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                  The video very clearly answers this. Like, multiple times.

                  No, they made affirmation, that’s not a proof.
                  For the first location, they say the loss of water pression AND the sediments are due to the datacenter.
                  They are getting their water from a well, if a well runs out, you get more sediments.
                  Is this your “clear answers” ?

                  We know that it is a tremendous amount of water because we can estimate and we can see the data of towns literally going into extreme droughts right next to data centers.

                  If this come from your video again, i again doubt your statements.

                  Datacenters dont make water magically disapear, it have to go somewhere.
                  You would see a release pipe, so the water is restituted, or vapor cloud, which should be very visible.
                  But we dont see any vapor cloud.