Still do.
I’ve been alcohol free since 7th April 2023 but it’s a stop on the way home to see mates that don’t game online.
UK pub that’s part of the community. We organise canal cleans / litter picks / quiz nights / charity events etc…
Pubs can be good and you don’t HAVE to drink booze. Bars now… They are a different story I feel.
On a side note I feel the ability to ‘legally’ drink (without a meal) from the age of 18 stops a lot of the idiotic drinking stuff I always hear about from over the pond.
Yes, but bear in mind a lot of factory, construction, and industrial jobs are 7-3 or 8-4. So a working class laborer could go catch a happy hour with the coworkers or neighbors and be home by 5.
Also in the age of single income households men were often not expected to pull as much weight at home.
You guys are only working 8hrs? What a life to have. The company I use to work for extended their store hours in 6pm so 8-6 was typical with no overtime pay. Woww saying this out loud really makes me want to unionize.
Found the American.
In case you want real data rather than personal biases, the average us employee works fewer hours than the average new Zealander (or +62hr/yr ~1 hr/week if you use the oecd data). In neither dataset is the US at the top. New Zealand, Australia, and the US are all wayyy above the German/french crowd, though.
Even if the germans are taking two months off they’re still only working 6 hr/day, which explains their pay (american engineers seem to follow the pattern of 1-it sucks here->2-what about europe->3-actually, I will accept getting 3x pay for more work).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_annual_labor_hours
I was raised in a bar. My mother owned it for 40 years. Yes, same customers every day. They were all alcoholist but some of them stopped functioning. My mother Fed them, did their taxes, cut their hair. It’s terrible and sad. The functioning alcoholists had a family to turn home to. I used to be an alcoholist until 10 years ago. My wife had to make me realise that drinking every day, even just one beer a day, is alcoholism.
Is alcoholist(s) term that means something different than alcoholic(s)? Never seen it before
No, I suspect OP’s native language might not be English.
True, autocorrect switched alcoholic to alcoholist.
Alcoholist is an older word for alcoholic. They might be older, hence the older word
I’m old, but not that old :-)
Yeah I wasn’t sure if maybe it was a term they used in another part of the world, or if maybe it meant one who partakes in the use of alcohol but maybe isn’t an addict. It seems like it is a synonym like you are saying.
I think it’s alcoholism/alcoholic. Just a different translation.
Pub culture is definitely a thing in the UK though and I wish we had some of these neighborhood meeting places in the US too. They aren’t necessarily a place to get shitfaced but to get a simple meal and a beer.
Fraternal/Sororal organizations used to be a big thing up to the 60s with the Elks clubs, Odd Fellows, Shriners, etc. We’ve lost a lot of that community glue.
Car centric urban design and pub culture are incompatible.
though alcoholism is bad, the lack of thirst spaces is a much bigger problem
*Third spaces
thirst spaces
I can’t decide if this is a joke or a Freudian slip.
Thirst spaces is a new term for this ancient person. Could you define?
I’m picturing a bunch of thot’s and dudebros mingling
meant third spaces.
though when taking about pubs, it could work
I live in England, but maybe twenty years ago I’d go to my regular pub most days, have a couple of pints and maybe some food, socialise with people I’d got to know there.
Obviously that doesn’t happen anymore, it’s way too expensive now. Going to the pub or out for a meal is a rare treat these days.
Remember, no internet before this millenium, 3 to 7 television channels before cable, no TV before the 50s…
My uncle was a factory worker and a daily regular at his favorite local bar for more than 30 years.
My mom wouldn’t allow me to go inside the bar (because drinking alcohol is a sin, you know). But in the '80s and '90s, before cell phones, I knew exactly where to find him after school if I needed anything.
Unfortunately, 30+ years of excessive drinking caused a lot of really serious health problems that caught up to him when he was in his 50s. The owners and staff sent a huge flower arrangement and all came to his funeral.
A sin? Lol what? Jesus turned water into wine, the fucking madlad!
It used to be a place for the working stiffs to gather and was priced accordingly. Nowadays capitalization has been overused to the point where a lot of businesses are pricing themselves out of customers.
An average draft goes for $7-11 dollars in my city. And the $11 drafts are served in a smaller chalice than the cheaper stuff. I usually buy a 12 pack of beer for $24 from the store and get drunk at home when I can afford it.
Holy fuck! Even today you can get a 30 pack of average beer like bud Budweiser for 25 ish.
Back in the day I paid 3 a point for some cheap ass.
I’m buying IPAs they taste better to me and still feel like a bang for the buck, I grab a pack of Bell’s
A lot of blue collar workers went straight to the bar after work 3-4 days a week.
I did sheet metal back in the 90’s for a year. Typical day… start at 6, off at 2:30, bar from 3-5. Pretty much everyday.
For référence, there is an ancient in my village of 300 inhabitants that isbsaying that in the 60’s, there were SIX bars in the village. For 300 inhabitants.
So I guess so.
Also for reference we only have a bread machine now, no shops of any kind.
we only have a bread machine now, no shops of any kind.
“We” meaning your village? Your village no longer has shops, but somehow shares a bread machine? Or am I totally misunderstanding this?
Yes
It’s a baguette vending machine in the center of the village
Yes I am french
This sounds so much better than my bread machine where I have to add ingredients, press buttons, and wait four hours, but can never get a baguette
Ohhh a bread vending machine. That makes a lot more sense than what I was thinking lol
Yes, even in countries like Austria. Saddest thing was that many men that were ‘great pals’ while drinking turned into abusers when coming home, making their families co-dependents and their lives hell.
Used to be? This is still common in many industries and localities.
The divide between cultures and populations becomes highly apparent on sites like this, which attract a very select group.
Yeah, from a lot of the responses I’m seeing my ignorance on the matter. I’m in a big city so it’s probably very different.
It depends on (sub)culture, but mainly yes.
Bars were often cheap too, so going to the bar multiple times per week was not expensive. The reason these bars were cheap:
- Outside of touristic areas ground is cheap.
- If the local government allows it, the bar can on the owners property.
- The owner and customers were often friends, so friend pricing would be standard.
- Health and safety regulations used to be less strict. Allowing for lower prices.
- The bar was open whenever the owner wanted, instead of on a fixed schedule, making it more easy to combine with a second job.
- Bars rarely had a menu, they just sold whatever they had in stock. Today customers would be upset if an item on the menu was not in stock.
Also,
- Parks used to be less safe and less well maintained, so buying drinks in the supermarket and consuming them in the park wasn’t really an option.
- The internet wasn’t a thing, so people who wanted to spend the evening gaming had to do so in the bar.
- Parks used to be less safe and less well maintained, so buying drinks in the supermarket and consuming them in the park wasn’t really an option.
Found the non-American
These neighborhood bars in Boston were real. I had a GF who worked in a university lab where they would go to a bar after hours and she would bring me along. It was an old school Irish bar (even had pics of Sinn Féin members on the walls). I kept going after we broke up and ended up dating one of the woman who bartended. She would pass me free drinks. I was always a light drinker though, I just nursed them. This was mostly in my 20s. I did visit another Irish pub after night class in a different part of the city and the guy working there remembered what my usual meal order was. lol
Worked in a pub in the UK.
Yes, we had regulars. They’d be there nearly every night after work for a quick pint before heading home.
Very few of them would stay for more than one or two though
