• Mugita Sokio@lemmy.today
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    He never advocated for such systems. In fact, He was for people doing the hard work, not receiving handouts.

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      22 hours ago

      Are you telling me that all or most people who get help from the government are lazy people who don’t want to work? The socialism policies are implemented to maintain people lives and sanity so they can try to improve their situations

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        Precisely. That was a choice they made, and now they got themselves stuck. Spirko (who I’ve talked about earlier in this thread) is always one to recommend a skill that can be so valuable, you don’t need debt to do it. Trades are a good way to do that, and it’s never too late to learn one, apply it, and do it professionally.

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      So why did he throw the money changers out of the temple then?

      Why is it harder for a rich man to enter heaven than for a camel to pass through the wye of a needle?

      And why do you think communism means no work and only handouts?

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        The money changing was Babylonian money magick, of which was the reason they were thrown out.

        For a rich man to enter heaven, he needed to give up all material things, and instead, focus on building spiritual wealth. This was what the verse in reference meant.

        As for communism meaning no work and only handouts, why do you think people are being oppressed? They allowed communism to fit in, and the whole point was to accept handouts for those who didn’t work.

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          the money changing was Babylonian money magick, of which was the reason they were thrown out

          A. Where did you hear that it was Babylonian money? Babylon had fallen ~500 years earlier, so I doubt there’d be any of their money left in use. B. Jesus talks about the temple become “a den of robbers”. That doesn’t sound like the only issue was the choice of currency

          the whole point was to accept handouts for those who didn’t work

          Ignoring for now the fact that that’s far from the point, what’s so bad about “handouts”? Sure, if you refuse to work you shouldn’t expect to be given a mansion or something, but that’s not what anyone is seriously saying. The “handouts” that leftists talk about is stuff like food and basic housing. The idea is that your right to live is based on your value as a person, not your productivity as a worker.

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            While Babylon fell in 539, the traditions were still kept by the Medo-Persians, Greeks, Romans, and Roman Catholic Church. Babylon is still alive and well, just not the city anymore. The comment on the “den of robbers” has to do with money changing (the Babylonian money magick) being the robbing.

            As for your comment on the handouts thing, I’d recommend reading Laws of Life: Ditch the System, Design Your Life by Jack Spirko. You’ll realize how wrong that is.