Hii! So a few days ago I began a nearly fully carnivore diet. Eating Angus and 85% lean grass fed patties and I have been experiencing these crazy symptoms.
Question with no context: Do you experience what feels like our ancestral psychology of Kill, Conquer or Reproduce endlessly. From eating a carnivorous diet?
It began with this incredible energy and irritation to certain things. That was almost all consuming. Though I had to control of course.
Then this absolute arousal mixed with the want to eat more meat but also nonstop reproduce.
Beyond that I had amazing pain management. Where I got a cut that almost circled my whole arm. Barely any pain. When before that’d sting like a BITCH.
I also today held a 375 F pan and only got one blister and the rest of my hand healed in 30 minutes to an hour and I held it for probably 30 seconds or longer. I’d assume you’d have worse burns. Though most of my hand has no burns, the elasticity of my thumb came back in that 30-1 h. Only thing left is the blister that’s tiny.
Lastly I managed to automatically breathe or just absorb air for 15 minutes rapidly moving. Probably 10-15 reps per 20 seconds until I went 30-40 reps per 20 seconds. I pushed myself to max near the end and that’s when my breathing dramatically increased needing me to actually breathe.
Does anyone else experience this with eating constant meat? It almost feels like Kill, Conquer or Reproduce. If that makes sense.
My genuine advice for you is to find a psychiatrist, tell them everything, and then follow their recommendations
I’d assume that’s a nutritionist rather because they understand how food works on the body.
The food is not doing this to you. The increased energy and irritability you describe are hallmark symptoms of a manic episode. Other symptoms include increased sex drive, loss of impulse control, and increased goal-directed activity.
I had a patient once who was manic as fuck and even came into the hospital denying that he was manic, that instead he started an all-meat diet and it gave him limitless energy. In real life, he was experiencing mania before he started that diet, and his manic brain was just continually connecting dots that weren’t actually connected.
I highly recommend you see a psychiatrist for an evaluation. If you are experiencing a manic episode, it could get worse before it gets better. I’ve seen it get a lot worse for people
Ohhh it’s not the type of irritability I have with mania at all no. Also I have full control over impulse control. Also it’s not the same at all how it felt when I was manic with any of these symptoms. Including I live currently in a 10-30% Hypomania. I can control it up to 80-85% mania. I can assure you this isn’t it.
I gained evolutionary bipolar. My induction. I can tell I haven’t reached over 85% mania in like two years now or longer. It simply is so low probability. Basically impossible. In my case.
Talk to your psychiatrist ASAP.
I don’t need to. I can assure you that. This is not bipolar. The effects mentioned here. How they show up in bipolar are very different and more debilitating.
Whether you’re bipolar or not, people are saying that you are obviously not well. I think it was irresponsible for people to call what we are seeing mania with such certainty but you have certainly started to lose touch with our shared reality.
Okay, okay. I know it’s a cliche right now, but can we please please please get this guy a brain scan? This sounds like a really good case for a few parasites.
Seriously. You either had a massive massive anemia (red meat can temporarily (!) help then), you are a top shitposter or you have a major issue.
Source: Healthcare professional. Not your HCP.
And btw(edit): Diet change is absolutely known to cause mania in bipolar and similar diseases and a lot of what you write sounds like a patient in a phase of mania or hypomania. Please seek help. Or lick a lithium battery, I don’t really care.
Honestly neither. My bloodwork has been honestly optimal before this diet. No deficiencies or anything.
Also this is just normal due to our ancestral psychology. I thought at least until yesterday. Maybe I’ve retained too much from that state. Since to me this just makes sense.
Please see my edit in case you haven’t before.
And your ancestors were omnivores unless you have a lot of sudden body hair growth on a full moon.
Seriously dude. I know mania feels great. But it isn’t.
Yes. I know our ancestors where omnivores but meat specifically triggered much in them as it is me now. As a hard food to get.
And yes. This isn’t anything like mania to me. Mania it’s irritation is warm, everything triggers, overwhelming. This is cold, calculating, overwhelming and sadistic. Completely different.
This is not mania. I understand though this is the only baseline you have to compare.
Also mania could be a really beneficial thing if you can control it. There’s a theory I had that our ancestors when they were constantly being hunted by wolves, Other creatures throughout time. That this constant rush would make them induced into hypomania at the minimum. Those with bipolar and In the societies, you would have to learn to control and hone those specific negative effects. Like a risk taking without thinking.
The irritation would be a negative effect or they would send it to something else.
Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying this is easy to do by any means but they had to to survive if they went down to depression. It’s likely that would’ve caused their death because imagine how depression that we see today affecting them when they couldn’t stop running or being alter.
Unless they had a tribe or a pack, they would be stranded. They would be stuck surviving while barely wanting to move. Thoughts all negative. Why I assume in this period they could not easily reach depression because they had to keep moving and moving and moving they may have been stressed out or down by the stress of surviving like this, but their constant state of mind was either an hypomania or mania if they had bipolar.
Now this comes into what I develop today called the evolutionary bipolar. I can control my hypomania and all of its negative symptoms completely. I can control mania up to 80 to 85%
If I went to a medical professional right now to be seen for bipolar, they would be so confused by how I act compared to how I actually talk about how I see things. They would begin to notice the mania in the back, but it not controlling anything I do because I don’t allow it to. I had a family. You really think I was going to allow such a pathetic thing to control me???
This is the most cartoonish thing I’ve read about recently. Bravo.
Why is it cartoonish. I’m confused 😭😓
Possibly the super-powers-from-meat angle you are explaining. 🙃
You may need a longer sample period to identify any changes happening here.
But aren’t these changes already happening? I mean from everything that I’ve typed and experienced. It seems like the changes happened really rapidly maybe not fully developed but yeah.
I beg your finest fucking pardon. The fuck did I just read? I get why other comments are saying bait.
I’ve done basically full carnivore back when my partner first had bariatric surgery because we don’t have the largest food budget and she needed to avoid carbs while having the highest amount of protein for the smallest possible volume of food so meat was basically the only thing that fit the bill.
What in the frosted mini fuck are you on about?
Judging by their history id say they were already delusional. Lack of carbs may have cause a psychotic break.
The opposite actually, there is lots of very promising research on the metabolism mind connection. Basically applying therapeutic carbohydrate restriction (keto) for psychiatric disorders.
lol “It’s only their carnivore diet that is keeping them this lucid!” gtfo
I didn’t say that. Thanks for your consistent downvotes! It reminds me that you are still around!
I feel like it was a fair reading of what you said.
Lack of carbs may have cause a psychotic break.
Basically applying therapeutic carbohydrate restriction (keto) for psychiatric disorders.
My intention is to illustrate that the abundance of carbs appears to be more linked to psychotic issues.
lol “It’s only their carnivore diet that is keeping them this lucid!” gtfo
I didn’t say, or imply, that the original poster is lucid.
You worry me. Go see a psychiatrist, PLEASE. no matter how much you think this isn’t mania, this IS mania.
Hi, YES!
Okay, so like half your post is pure lunacy, but low carb dieting is known to commonly cause hypomania in many people. This is often one of the desired effects of the diet, which often simply manifests as feeling more energetic and optimistic. It sounds like you might be experiencing this effect to an extreme.
I recommend that you (1) immediately come to terms with the fact that you are not in your right mind and (2) eat some carbs and see if you feel more normal. Then work with a mental health professional if you want to continue experimenting with low carb diet strategies.
low carb dieting is known to commonly cause hypomania in many people.
This is new information for me. Do you have any references I could read more on?
I forgot where I first heard it, but here is an article.
I actually noticed it myself when being on a keto diet (which I’d been following for weight loss) spontaneously cured my depression.
That is a very well written article, I just wish they’d provided a source for the hypomania. The sources they provided showed only benefits.
It’s always nice when someone proves that there are indeed stupid questions.
You did not “hold” a 200c pan for 30 seconds and escape with one blister and no burns.
Eating meat doesn’t rewrite your genetic code and give you heat resistance.
Yeah I only had a blister on my middle finger. Everything else came back perfectly fine. I’m not saying that alone did it but I wouldn’t be surprised if it had some effect
I also today held a 375 F pan and only got one blister and the rest of my hand healed in 30 minutes to an hour and I held it for probably 30 seconds or longer.
Yeah, no. First off, at that temperature you’d have ended up hospitalized if you held on to it for 30 seconds, and no, your body will not repair itself in 30 minutes no matter what you think. This is the real world, not X-Files…
Having said that, I feel like you’re having different issues and maybe you should talk to a psychologist?
Also, eat vegetables. Seriously, what is it with the Internet and giving people terrible ideas?
I mean my hand is healed but that blister 🤷♂️
No one gave me any ideas. Why does everyone assume. Someone has to give you an idea. My body reacts very well to this.
Beyond sounding like absolute anti-carnivore hogwash or placebo, it sounds like a weirdly accelerated case of that parasite you can get from eating undercooked red meat.
Has it had any effect on your wings?
Very likely yeah I mean that’s how I pushed myself to 40 reps every 20 seconds. Before I could only do about 25 to 30 reps every 20 seconds. And that was painful
I was just thinking about you the other day. Glad to see you’re still around.
Based on how preposterous most of what you’re saying is, it must have driven you insane. A small blister from holding a 375 degree pan? Bullshit.
Hahaa not this for sure. I mean this is just a new addition onto years of things but yeah one blister
Just eat a vegetable dude…
Hi I’m one of the moderators of !carnivore@discuss.online
Do you experience what feels like our ancestral psychology of Kill, Conquer or Reproduce endlessly
No, the most common psychological effect people report is being very calm and less anxious.
irritation to certain things.
Can you describe the irritation?
Where I got a cut that almost circled my whole arm. Barely any pain. When before that’d sting like a BITCH.
This is not a known affect of eating a carnivore diet, pain sensitivity should be the same
