Javascript being disruptive technology is… A take for sure.
When your self driving car is written in react you’ll understand.
Self driving cars? Think human interface on spaceships!
https://os-system.com/blog/javascript-in-space-spacex-devs-have-shared-crewdragons-tech-stack/
SpaceX
I’m sure Musk hand coded it in JS and then paid some underpaid dude who is only slightly less abused in the US instead of india to unfuck his dogshit.
You seem to have a higher opinion of Musk than is common here. Most wouldn’t expect him to know what JavaScript was
When your self driving car is written in react you’ll understand.
I’ll understand briefly, as my life flashes before my eyes? Haha.
8 frameworks and waiting for fingerprinting scripte to load just for the website to run at 1 frame every minute
Isn’t that more just website developers adding completely unnecessary shit that hog resources?
Disrupting my low ram usage
It definitely is/was. Most user facing software these days is a web app, or native application using JS anyways. The event loop and async programming is also ubiquitous nowadays in most languages, especially server side.
It always disrupted everything, and is getting only better on that with time.
I’m guessing they started with the portraits and then built out a kind of mood board around them. Javascript is not disruptive in any good way, but people who like Javascript (and Apple and so on) might think they are.
I mean from inception until now it has been a huge change in programming. Node changed a lot of things. Typescript changed a lot of things. React changed a lot of things.
A long way since GWT which google was doing because its java devs hated js
Exactly, disruptive does not have to be a good thing.
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True, but so was Windows.
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It was like 7 years ago with all the JavaScript frameworks flooding in around Node.js
Now it’s just kinda standard
Putting Apple under disruption not tradition lol
Author is either a troll or drank the apple marketing koolaid.
How the fuck is C++ more traditional than C?
C was incredibly disruptive 50 years ago.
Tradition++
I think it’s not meant to be more traditional, the icon positions seem random and only the square they’re located is important.
To me it looks like to position within each of quadrant want taken into account.
It really seems like the creator didn’t bother with spacing at all. Something that did consider spacing within quadrants wouldn’t have its items this closely packed together.
This is pretty much nonsense lol
It makes sense once you accrue 1000 hours on /g/ (10 years ago, it’s a much dumber place now)
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Uh, Linus Torvalds is a hypedev?
Btw, is this meme old?
This is a very confusing image
What is this shit? I don’t recognize half of this garbage. How is terminal + text editor not an option?
That’s just the Emacs logo in the top-left. At least I assume Emacs has a terminal since there’s that old “Vim proverb” about Emacs being a “great OS, it just lacks a good editor.”
Ok, now … where does TempleOS and HolyC belong on this chart?
*Sigh*. Fine, let’s introduce a z-axis specifically for Terry A. Davis.
So what you’re saying is that… he is either from, belongs to, or should be placed on…
… another plane of existence?
lololololollool
It needs a Z axis for hobby vs enterprise.
There we go, there, that actually makes sense to me, thank you!
I want to know what a corpo hobbyist traditionalist language is though, lol.
Like uh… I make vba / excel macros in my spare time for fun, lol?
That’s where retrocomputing comes into play I guess, Haha!
Those people running Windows 2000 or XP on old computers or VMs and making old-school dotnet web forms apps for it.
I can imagine myself doing this one day, just for nostalgia. 😄
Dead center with God
Ah, so your idea is that they exist at a location with an imaginary component, they exist in an unvisualized, complex plane?
teeheehee
Why would god be a middledev?
Maximum freedom, and somehow joining the maximum points on the tradition and disruption axes, forcefully bending the chart into some sort of cylinder
Eh, I wouldn’t say TempleOS is disruptive. It was literally started off as a modern-day C64 successor. So, tradition all the way.
Pasting objects into text files is pretty disruptive. The only other coding editor I know that can do that is DrRacket with images. I mean the guy invented an entire OS, C variant, several programs… all incompatible with traditional ones, simply because of his unique personal beliefs.
Pasting objects into text files is pretty disruptive
It’s still text with some formatting underneath, though, just like HTML. Actually, in HTML we already have it in form of
contenteditableattribute. You can straight up paste images and move other html elements into elements with it. I just checked, you can even do this with full on canvas elements and animated webgl views if you wanted to for some reason, though the code must be adjusted to account for it. I have yet to see it being useful and not a liability, though.True, I guess it’s just a type of hypertext. Still, hypertext in a code editor is underexplored.
I think there’s a healthy amount of bs in there (Chrome, C# as traditional?), but some of it checks out. I like a mix of old and new but try to stay away from proprietary. Current favorites are probably Emacs, NixOS, and Rust.
Where’s the drunken conglomeration that is Scala?
Btw. It’s my favorite language
People with the skill level necessary to create such memes don’t know what Scala is
Love that the Guix logo is included!
TIL I’m a hypedev
I use Arch btw
We should reimplement it in Rust
This whole chart should’ve been rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise.
Wouldn’t that put Bill Gates on the “freedom” side?
No, I mean the whole chart should be rotated, including the labels. I want “freedom” to be across the bottom and “proprietary” to be across the top, so that it matches “libertarian” and “authoritarian” on the political compass.
(“Tradition” and “disruption” don’t map to “left” and “right” quite as well, but if it were exact it would just be the political compass instead of just analogous to it.)
“Soydev”? This is fucking stupid.
Found the soydev
What does soy mean though?
There is that weird conspiracy theory that soybeans contain an estrogen adjacent substance which makes men more feminine. Complete nonsense but it gets especially funny when these people are advocating for cows milk instead of soy milk, because the former actually contains mammalian estrogen.
It’s 4chan slop. Bascially, they think that people who drink soy milk are weak, despite soy milk having more protein.
It’s commonly used as a synonym for beta. Like the alpha, beta, omega, sigma male nonsense? Same dumb concept.
Soy is beans and beans rock.
Here is the way I am interpreting the names for the extreme stereotypes of quadrants/corners:
Cogdev:
cog in the machine, you are fully subsumed into ‘the process’, you have abandoned the shackles of humanity as you once knew them, and view an org flow chart of people and teams producing some software nearly identically to how you would look at a process flow chart for actual software systems.
souls are not only superfluous, but due to be patched out entirely in the next semi-annual release, you don’t see why anyone would need one or miss them.
Soydev:
you are cogdev, but you are also delusional and think you are not; you think what you are doing is some kind of ‘good’ in some way, some way that will achieve some nebulous concept of making ‘things’ ‘better’ for some kind of group of people.
you aren’t, and you won’t, but delusion is your superpower; your ego has an actually physically measurable mass.
until, that is, you finally have your cognitive dissonance either totally erode or violently shatter, and then you realize you are are no different from cogdev in anyway other than branding and marketing… which are at least practical skills for you to better serve your corporate masters.
fake it till you make, or else fake it till you break it and then crash out like an unpotty trained billionaire.
Hypedev:
you are actually fucking around with novel shit that may potentially yield an actual paradigm shift, but you also probably know that almost no one will notice this paradigm shift… and it could all just be a giant waste of time anyway.
you probably either don’t really care, or care way, way, waaaay too much.
doesn’t really matter either way, not like you’re gonna get rich from this, you’re not in it to win it, you’re in it to find every possible way to fail untill all that remains is probably an actual good idea. … maybe?
decent chance you have anger issues, intermittent explosive disorder, bidpolar disorder, some kind of dysphoria, hyper-autism, etc.
Libredev:
you are good, probably quite good, at what you do, but this means you can tend to view anything other than the way you do things as unreliable or unproven.
on the one hand, people like you disappear completely? utter catastrophe with maybe a 3 to 9 month fuse.
on the other hand… people like you largely in fact are disappearing, so… maybe it would be a good idea to dial down the ‘get-off-my-lawn-o-meter’ such that you could at least maybe teach someone how to follow in your footsteps…
… or, god forbid, go through all your own code and actually document and comment it such that someone other than literally only you may have a chance at understanding any of it.
Agreed. Infantile and basically a slur on people because of their dietary choices. Part of a pattern of language that is basically alt-right bait for young insecure and disaffected men.
Edit: Adding a link to an article I saw on the orange site. The Four Dark Laws of online engagement are a nice little cheat sheet for the patterns you see repeatedly online. Negatively biased language that targets an out group has a virality amongst this audience: https://www.derekthompson.org/p/all-the-sad-young-terminally-online
rust is more proprietary than linus.











